who would you have map your car and why

What do you mean I don't know the circumstances Mario ?
I know that since Bish first got his car mapped by Bob it has had 3 engines one I paid for myself as you well know.
Loui Herbert's turbo was a brand new one built by Jonny, is that not a pristine condition part ?

Will have to agree to disagree on this one mate cos everyone is entitled to their own opinion are they not ?

natski wrote:

What do you mean I don't know the circumstances Mario ?
I know that since Bish first got his car mapped by Bob it has had 3 engines one I paid for myself as you well know.
Loui Herbert's turbo was a brand new one built by Jonny, is that not a pristine condition part ?

Will have to agree to disagree on this one mate cos everyone is entitled to their own opinion are they not ?

Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion - never suggested otherwise. Are you saying that Bish treats his cars with respect? It wouldn't matter if the Pope mapped Bish's car - he would still blow it up  He thrashes th etits off every car he gets - even if he is running it in - he loves it! You know that better than anyone.

Are you also saying that every single car mapped my Andy Forrest has run without issue post-map? I don't know if that's the case so wouldn't dream of assuming it - but making such a stonewall judgement about Bob's mapping skills based on 2 incidents with people you know and given he maps thousand of cars is a bit harsh I would have thought.

Still love you bud  but as you said we will just have to agree to disagree on this one  

I wont post on here but I don't know of any of the major mappers who have not had an engine go bang on them from one time to another, all from mates/horses mouth. I would happily let Andy or Bob map my car when I want it done, but mine's a standard car. We all know what issues/problems you can introduce when you start meddling with an engine/cars setup, so sooner or later some cars will go pop. Its human nature that you only hear about the bad experiences, for every 1 bad experience I'm sure theres 20 good ones. Just make sure your's is one of the good ones.  

is it not down to driver error over the map though

Has any1 heard of a mapper who runs a company called CNL Re-Mapping?
I believe he works down south somewhere but sometimes calls up the north east every now and them.
Bloke near me said he is brilliant with a ecu and a laptop but obviously its hos opinion.

This thread could go back and forward every one like diffrent mapper and as longs as there happy why change if Every one like the same thing life would be boaring

you guys are funny arguing im a mapper and understand the process fully i have plugged cars in mapped by bob and afr boost etc etc are all good well mapped and safe that isnt second hand Chinese whispers thats fact and my comment about andy f was that the car that he wins his trophies in doesnt run an impreza engine i know he does a lot with imprezas but i would prefer him to win the trophies on a modded impreza engine

Are you on another planet or been asleep for the last few years Andys last Impreza was a 4 cylinder 2.4 which was also road going & win more stuff then enough.Hes been there don the modded Impreza engine the latest spec is just the next step up

Here's my view on both mappers lol

I've driven cars that have been mapped by both and both are great mappers in there own way!
If I was to get my own car mapped if I was to use it for drag,track days and fast road I'd go to Andy f
If I was using it as a everyday driver and fast road on weekend etc I'd go for bob!

I ran a 10.9 1/4 I'm Andy gradys car mapped by Andy f which was a first in a newage wiv standard postion turbo (so I've been told) so great result

I also ran a 11.5 in mark reeds type r this weekend running around 430bhp on a standard v3 engine mapped by bob so great result there aswell

So to sum up both great mappers and get great results so you can't go wrong either way!

Yip I agree Trev

natski wrote:

Trophies mean everything otherwise what's the point in their existence ???

Andy F is the best of the best trophies or not and that's all there is to it..

The last Bob Rawle mapping session arranged by Andy K ended up with 2 out of 5 cars fucked within 3 days..
One had a fucked turbo the other chewed its crankshaft to death.
Sorry but I wouldn't use Bob Rawle ever

Bob can in no way be held responsible for the turbo failure, as you can see by the photos, an exhaust nut had been left in the headers and had been ingested by the exhaust turbine side of the turbo causing failure

Jonny Gav wrote:

natski wrote:

Trophies mean everything otherwise what's the point in their existence ???

Andy F is the best of the best trophies or not and that's all there is to it..

The last Bob Rawle mapping session arranged by Andy K ended up with 2 out of 5 cars fucked within 3 days..
One had a fucked turbo the other chewed its crankshaft to death.
Sorry but I wouldn't use Bob Rawle ever

Bob can in no way be held responsible for the turbo failure, as you can see by the photos, an exhaust nut had been left in the headers and had been ingested by the exhaust turbine side of the turbo causing failure

It seems my faith in bob has been restored a little then

Andy is still better tho he maps it quicker and costs you less fuel

Ha

AndyF has mapped mine 3 times, he killed it on the last one. He dialled in too much power and it eat my 5 speed gearbox.... What a jolly nice guy.

Would only use AndyF for my maps. I am happy with him so why change

StickT wrote:

AndyF has mapped mine 3 times, he killed it on the last one. He dialled in too much power and it eat my 5 speed gearbox.... What a jolly nice guy.

Would only use AndyF for my maps. I am happy with him so why change

As long as you know you deserved it for trying to be a big power 5 speed box hero then that's ok

Yeah, it was a chance, pulled well right up until the last little sprint home, it was mapped by then though. 20g turbo power...

StickT wrote:

AndyF has mapped mine 3 times, he killed it on the last one. He dialled in too much power and it eat my 5 speed gearbox.... What a jolly nice guy.

I rest my case your honour - case closed - it happens to even the very best [/quote]

Bein greedy on the 5er really. I have no complaints really, best experience with a man in the passenger seat

StickT wrote:

best experience with a man in the passenger seat

I'll take your word for it mate  

Don't knock it until you've tried it LOL:lol!: 

Ooohh two failed s there ha ha you need to put a space before and after..
And running 20G on a 5 speed box is asking for trouble. I wonder what will happen when GaryBlake fits his 530BHP turbo to his lmfao..

I bet the mod who edited this post thought I wouldn't realise..
Guess what fool you where wrong !!

Booooooooooooooom, I have had 3 gearbox now on a Max's out 20g

For all I have a 6 speed box in mine its still on std wrx internals and will be getting mapped on the 10th of September with a JG20G fitted  lets hope it holds out  

It duz my head in a bit people chase power figures with bigger turbos etc on engines that's not designed or won't take it & when it go's tits up they cry at the cost to repair & blame the mapper,
You can't have ya cake n eat it lol rather than twist about the cost etc or buy shite off shitbay & expect it to hold up be reasonable n either spend some money doing it right or don't do it!

You can't run a Impreza on 2 bags of crisps n a giro lol

drew@drewsautos wrote:

It duz my head in a bit people chase power figures with bigger turbos etc on engines that's not designed or won't  take it & when it go's tits up they cry at the cost to repair & blame the mapper,
You can't have ya cake n eat it lol rather than twist about the cost etc or buy shite off shitbay & expect it to hold up be reasonable n either spend some money doing it right or don't do it!

You can't run a Impreza on 2 bags of crisps n a giro lol

Couldn't agree more