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iddysti

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PostSubject: Project 600+ Started   Project 600+ Started EmptySat 7 May - 0:05

Well I have had a bit of a problem with the engine the oil pick up pipe had cracked in the sump and was sucking in air and not oil which then destroyed the thrust bearing.

So off to AndyK for a strip down to see how much damage. Not good news one of the cylinder liners has a small crack, so new block needed. So I decided might as well start the new project and build a good strong engine from the start.

So the parts up to now:-

New 2.5 casings with bore strengtheners fitted (see below)
New 2.5 Full Nitride Crank.
New ACL race bearings.
New 14mm RCM Head Stud conversion (see below).
New 12mm modified oil pump.
Reuse existing Wossner Pistons (still in excellent condition).
Reuse existing Carrillo Rods (still in excellent condition).
Port and Polish existing heads.
O ring existing heads.


New casings with strentheners fitted.

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14mm Head Studs

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one block fitted with 14mm head studs

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I will post more pictures when AndyK gets more parts fitted Very Happy Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Project 600+ Started   Project 600+ Started EmptySat 7 May - 6:55

Nice little engine spec there Paul. Lets hope you see over 600+ bud as I know you've been after that figure for a while.
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PostSubject: Re: Project 600+ Started   Project 600+ Started EmptySat 7 May - 8:04

Bad news about the pick up pipe mate, it seems to be a common fault that Subaru just wash their hands of, would you mind if I had a look at the old pick up pipe???
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PostSubject: Re: Project 600+ Started   Project 600+ Started EmptySat 7 May - 8:09

is there any way of modifying the pick up pipe's or can higer qaulity ones be bought?
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PostSubject: Re: Project 600+ Started   Project 600+ Started EmptySat 7 May - 9:43

Jonny Gav wrote:
Bad news about the pick up pipe mate, it seems to be a common fault that Subaru just wash their hands of, would you mind if I had a look at the old pick up pipe???

Jonny no problem. I think Andy still has it.

Hardy, no you cant get an upgraded one, but a one from a classic is more solid construction, but you need a classic sump as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Project 600+ Started   Project 600+ Started EmptySat 7 May - 9:46

phil555 wrote:
Nice little engine spec there Paul. Lets hope you see over 600+ bud as I know you've been after that figure for a while.

Phil, I hope so, just dont know at the moment which turbo to go for, I think I am going rotated setup this time. The favorite at the minute is a Billet GT3582, but litchfield are developing a new turbo with turbo dynamics and Bob Rawle, so watch this space.
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PostSubject: Re: Project 600+ Started   Project 600+ Started EmptySat 7 May - 11:13

iddysti wrote:
phil555 wrote:
Nice little engine spec there Paul. Lets hope you see over 600+ bud as I know you've been after that figure for a while.

Phil, I hope so, just dont know at the moment which turbo to go for, I think I am going rotated setup this time. The favorite at the minute is a Billet GT3582, but litchfield are developing a new turbo with turbo dynamics and Bob Rawle, so watch this space.

3 good names there bud that should come up with a craking turbo.
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PostSubject: Re: Project 600+ Started   Project 600+ Started EmptySat 7 May - 12:24

600 bhp fook me that car was a rocket already Cool that turbo being devolped should be cracker
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PostSubject: Re: Project 600+ Started   Project 600+ Started EmptySat 7 May - 15:25

it will be, good job iddy runs top notch tyres study lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Project 600+ Started   Project 600+ Started EmptySat 7 May - 15:39

Hey Andy, there's nowt wrong with federals.....they keep the driving entertaining Laughing

Have you still got the pick up pipe?

If so I will pop down and pick it up, would Like to take it to work and check it out.
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PostSubject: Re: Project 600+ Started   Project 600+ Started EmptySat 7 May - 15:42

sorry to hear about your engine Iddy but looks an impressive shopping list you've got Laughing

iddysti wrote:

New 2.5 casings with bore strengtheners fitted (see below)

would a 2.0 CDB with 2.5 sleeves and machined for rear thrust crank not be stronger though? or a 2.2 CDB? scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Project 600+ Started   Project 600+ Started EmptySat 7 May - 15:44

Jonny Gav wrote:
Hey Andy, there's nowt wrong with federals.....they keep the driving entertaining Laughing

only the bravest drivers use them lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Project 600+ Started   Project 600+ Started EmptySat 7 May - 15:55

2.0l block with 2.5 sleeves scratch 2.2 ya loose displacement, would also mean rods and pistons aswell

Andy
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PostSubject: Re: Project 600+ Started   Project 600+ Started EmptySat 7 May - 15:57

Jonny Gav wrote:
Hey Andy, there's nowt wrong with federals.....they keep the driving entertaining Laughing

Have you still got the pick up pipe?

If so I will pop down and pick it up, would Like to take it to work and check it out.

jonny ive got it here for ya, do ya test bifta on it if ya want Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Project 600+ Started   Project 600+ Started EmptySat 7 May - 16:05

Andy Kindon wrote:
2.0l block with 2.5 sleeves scratch 2.2 ya loose displacement, would also mean rods and pistons aswell

Andy

i know you'd lose displacement, was just thinking of outright strength and sure would happily take 600. as for sleeves;

http://scoobynet.com/subaru-parts-451/871047-2-5-cdb-14mm-headstud-conversion.html

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PostSubject: Re: Project 600+ Started   Project 600+ Started EmptySat 7 May - 16:12

rofl, why do ya think it hasnt been built up ? Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: Project 600+ Started   Project 600+ Started EmptySat 7 May - 17:05

some people always no better clown Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Project 600+ Started   Project 600+ Started EmptySat 7 May - 18:57

peril, you can't beat displacement, that why the GtR is 3.8 litres and also why AndyF went for a 3.0 block, it's all about torque.

I could of gone 2.35 with a 2.2 closed deck and 2.5 crank, like steveBt has, but I think my car produces more torque than his.
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PostSubject: Re: Project 600+ Started   Project 600+ Started EmptySat 7 May - 19:05

Andy Kindon wrote:
it will be, good job iddy runs top notch tyres study lol!

You can't beat a good set of federals Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Project 600+ Started   Project 600+ Started EmptySat 7 May - 19:08

Andy Kindon wrote:
Jonny Gav wrote:
Hey Andy, there's nowt wrong with federals.....they keep the driving entertaining Laughing

Have you still got the pick up pipe?

If so I will pop down and pick it up, would Like to take it to work and check it out.

jonny ive got it here for ya, do ya test bifta on it if ya want Smile

Jonny, get a modified version made and you'll make a fortune.
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PostSubject: Re: Project 600+ Started   Project 600+ Started EmptySat 7 May - 20:15

Sounds like the conversation Jonny and me had earlier! Laughing Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Project 600+ Started   Project 600+ Started EmptySat 7 May - 21:09

jonny now has the pick up pipe, hes not atall pleased, think hes guna get onto subaru or sumit lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Project 600+ Started   Project 600+ Started EmptySat 7 May - 23:13

Shocked Christ! All i did was ask clown Rolling Eyes Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Project 600+ Started   Project 600+ Started EmptySun 8 May - 8:03

MORE bhp? Shocked
damn you car will be crazy to drive to work Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Project 600+ Started   Project 600+ Started EmptySun 8 May - 8:50

I am honestly shocked Subaru are turning a blind eye to this issue, and as Andy says I am going to contact Subaru about it.

Going to have a good look at it at work.
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