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PostSubject: Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ?   Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ? EmptyMon 4 Apr - 20:18

bought a set of manley conrods off ebay.com (america) but it was back in sept 2010

went to start me build about an hour ago and the conrod bolts were to tight i havnt got a vice at home so went upto workput the 1st one in the vice as it should of cracked straight off , gets to doing the 2nd one nd the 1st bolt was tight as fuk , so gets me heavier 1/2 gear out cracked straight off but its fucked the threads in the conrod .

fuking gutted was planning on getting it built up tonight and tomorrow ,cant afford to buy more and i cant find me invoice off ebay ,
ive found the company i bought them off but there returns policy states 30 days

ive just emailed them to see if they can do out , but am i just going to end up fighting a loosing battle i havnt even open 2 of the boxes obviously can see they havnt been fitted just dont think theyl do anything Evil or Very Mad

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PostSubject: Re: Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ?   Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ? EmptyMon 4 Apr - 20:23

Your invoice will be in your Pay-Pal history bud. See what they say and take it from there. Not sure if you'd be able to re-thread or helicoil a thread on a conrod, might be a bit dodgy IMO.
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PostSubject: Re: Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ?   Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ? EmptyMon 4 Apr - 20:47

ive looked on paypal nd i can only get the last 3 moth history , i im defo not going to re-thread it , just sent a email to manley asking if they can do anything about it aswell as i need them asap, obviously somones tightend it in cockeyed or just a faulty rod , hopefully theyl change them

cars nearly finnished all prep work now ready for the spray, so should have it back by the end of the week :-)
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PostSubject: Re: Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ?   Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ? EmptyMon 4 Apr - 20:51

the last option is a small claims court if there refusing to refund.. as if you havnt used them item is "not as discribed" doing it online you can go overseas and clai

or ring paypal as i had similar problem with a mountain bike about 2 years agao they have got records of all transactions
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PostSubject: Re: Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ?   Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ? EmptyMon 4 Apr - 20:56

there not refusing havnt got a reply yet lol just hope because the companys refund policy states 30 days they fuk is off lol
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PostSubject: Re: Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ?   Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ? EmptyMon 4 Apr - 20:59

Should be 12 month manufactures warranty !!!

Neva know mate they might sort em ?
Good luck and if all fails you do have the consumer
Direct helpline ?
Under sales and supply of goods act 1974 :


Essentially, the Act states that what you sell must fit its description, be fit for its purpose and be of satisfactory quality. If not, you - as the supplier - are obliged to sort out the problem.

This might help :-)
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PostSubject: Re: Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ?   Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ? EmptyMon 4 Apr - 21:29

exactly if they havnt adhered to DSR laws and by law any new product has a 12 months manufacturers warranty by law as thats the legal time for somthing to "last" as they say it was like that in me old job with loads of electrical goods and machinery.. theyl probablys try to riggle out of it but thats fact 12 months for new goods used or not
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PostSubject: Re: Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ?   Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ? EmptyMon 4 Apr - 21:51

just get a tap and die set u mite be able to repair it
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phils scooby wrote:
just get a tap and die set u mite be able to repair it

No chance spent an £££'s On build don't think it would even cope with the power , I'l just wait nd see wot they say
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PostSubject: Re: Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ?   Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ? EmptyMon 4 Apr - 22:19

Manley Hav just replied I've got to ring them tomorrow so they can get my address to replace them :-)

Sorted :-)
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PostSubject: Re: Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ?   Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ? EmptyMon 4 Apr - 22:21

thats good to here m8 hope the rest of the build goes well Cool
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PostSubject: Re: Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ?   Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ? EmptyMon 4 Apr - 22:22

wow well dont that company!! cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ?   Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ? EmptyMon 4 Apr - 22:35

Awesome news mate that dont happen often
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PostSubject: Re: Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ?   Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ? EmptyMon 4 Apr - 22:52

GIPA wrote:
phils scooby wrote:
just get a tap and die set u mite be able to repair it

No chance spent an £££'s On build don't think it would even cope with the power , I'l just wait nd see wot they say

how you think there done in the 1st place,

but good on them
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PostSubject: Re: Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ?   Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ? EmptyTue 5 Apr - 6:02

Massive boost for yu mate hope the rest of the build is plain sailing
Good luck fella
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phils scooby wrote:
GIPA wrote:
phils scooby wrote:
just get a tap and die set u mite be able to repair it

No chance spent an £££'s On build don't think it would even cope with the power , I'l just wait nd see wot they say

how you think there done in the 1st place,

but good on them

yes there done by drilling and tapping in the first place but redoing them because a cross thread justb weakent then hold of the threads mate spending hundreds on a build and have it rip out the threads isnt a good idea.

well done on getting them changed thou mate hope the rest goes good for you
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PostSubject: Re: Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ?   Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ? EmptyTue 5 Apr - 11:22

as my thread about scoobybits,, they probablys loose business.. now i bet in the future sombody on here wil possibly use MANLEY purely because of this post ..

credit where credits due if there replacing them thats brilliant service but the yanks tend to be like that cos yanks tend to just sue anybody for anything..

so a good customer service eliminates that...



not sure if tapping the old ones would be a good idea surely if your tapping them again itl streatch the hole a little bit moer and weaken the rest of it??????

not very knowledgable with this stuff but that just seems common sense.. but youl no better than me

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PostSubject: Re: Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ?   Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ? EmptyTue 5 Apr - 16:37

nt if your just repairing it just use the same tap and die tha has been used
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PostSubject: Re: Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ?   Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ? EmptyTue 5 Apr - 17:08

phils scooby wrote:
nt if your just repairing it just use the same tap and die tha has been used

Ahhhhh so you mean clean the threads with the same size Tap ?

And if i remember it correctly a tap is for internal threads and a die is for external threads (all that tax payers money to train me up wasn't a complete waste then )
lol! lol! lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ?   Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ? EmptyTue 5 Apr - 17:12

so if im right in sayingretapping or using a dye will put xtra strain on them not much but extra non the less??
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PostSubject: Re: Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ?   Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ? EmptyTue 5 Apr - 17:15

It would if you enlarge the hole as you are removing more of the metal !
And also depends on the tolerances of the part etc and as we know there is a lot of force pushing on a con rod Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ?   Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ? EmptyTue 5 Apr - 17:16

i see the point for tapping them but you carnt escpace the fact it removes metal to rethread and is sligthly bigger by a fraction i get the problem all the time working for nissan and we have to re torque using a wrench rather than using the sensitive torque htc guns as the tend to not like it after tapping so somthing musnt be right.

as for this thread he had them changed so the whole tap and die sets dont realy matter he has a spanking part coming to him which is a big congrats

and yeah it will still weaken them by a very very small amount which possibly wouldnt be noticible but it still does and i couldnt trust it. not a mechanic or anything but its common sense to me
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PostSubject: Re: Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ?   Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ? EmptyTue 5 Apr - 17:22

Drew160387 is right it's really good that he got a result and i hope all else goes well and can't wait to see the figures Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ?   Engine build gone bad already - anyone know wot i can do ? EmptyTue 5 Apr - 17:24

see bickering all the time on forums and it realy does do me tits in when it starts to wander from the original thread and becomes a debate about something other than what the lad was talking about whcih was getting them exchanged as he was NOT happy to tap them
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drew160387 wrote:
see bickering all the time on forums and it realy does do me tits in when it starts to wander from the original thread and becomes a debate about something other than what the lad was talking about whcih was getting them exchanged as he was NOT happy to tap them


i dont think peoples bikkering at all scratch scratch

nobodys saying he was mate meslef im just tryin to get some insight into as not that clued up on conrods etc..but i used to work at nissan caterpiller and komatsu and weve always used torque renches or guns.. you never know some might come into that problem in the future and knowing whether tapping would cause any long term damage is worth asking the question to guys who know.. surely scratch scratch

on a little standard engine i wouldnt of thought itd of made a diffrence gut gippas gunna be running high bhp so i think the question people were just asking about is would it be worth it and would it last Question Question
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