got this to start a project with....shopping list and advice needed

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this arrived today started to strip it down straight away. Doubt i'll be building it myself but will try to source all the parts myself and do as much as i can but the fact i know fook all means that wont be much

not gonna be the fastest build in the world but hopefully a good one in the end. I would like to see a strong 450bhp'ish mark with the right turbo.
will be building a short block as want to use my heads inlet ecu, ect ect and my 20G initially

advice on
:- what parts i should get
:- what route i should take
:- what the fook i should do


i look forward to any input.

Think you know the lads who'll give the best advice bud.

good luck m8 ....hope it goes well

think uve opened the nxt can of worms .

i know.



i'm going to use a new 2.5 STI crank i know that much so far was thinking cosworth pistons and rods but heard wossner pistons are good so just not sure

want good quality low cost if thats possible
would also like to kepp running top mount if possible but not sure if there is any that can take much over 400bhp?

another 30 pager on the way here


well good luck great start with the block anyway.. again you know the guys on here who know there shit

Sure Duncan told me the STi top mount was good for the power you're looking for? Later cranks are nitrided but I believe there are still some big power cars running the earlier non nitrided cranks

going to use a nitrated one pal.

Andy Forrest was running a top mount at 480hp in his spec C.

Both mine and caryns RB5 are running wossner pistons. I would highly recommend them, I think Andy K would back me on that.

Good Luck mate, go for 500 and put a MD321v on. , its not going to cost much more.

What year car was the engine removed from??

i am looking to get an MD321v or something of that standard later on. have you always used the wossener pistons or ever had to change them on a rebuild.

i kinda want a strong daily driver i know yours is a daily but think you might have alot more money in yours than i wanna put in mine . is that just the difference between 500 and 600bhp?

hard on 1.72" wrote:

going to use a nitrated one pal.

I'm sure iddys and caz's are running the standard crank , that's wot I'm using for my build aswell , wossner pistons , Manley rods, acl race bearings , pm Andy k for prices

Watch eBay there's lots of copy parts going about ;-)

going to avoid fleabay like!! what are eagle h beam rods like?

standard later rods are stronger then eagles, bt dnt take my word for it i know fuk all

phils scooby wrote:

standard later rods are stronger then eagles, bt dnt take my word for it i know fuk all

So you are saying a standard I beam cast aluminium conrod is stronger than an H beam 4340 steel forged conrod, think I better go back to college and speak to my Mechanical engineering professor and tell him all the stuff he taught me on materials composition and beam loads was a load of shite then eh???

!!

Think im going to go manley ( nothing to do with my hair) rods. Seem to be reasonable price and decent performance.

great project m8
i have some plans myself for the bugeye
2.5 engine or 6speed gearbox
maybe better brakes

Jonny Gav wrote:

phils scooby wrote:

standard later rods are stronger then eagles, bt dnt take my word for it i know fuk all

So you are saying a standard I beam cast aluminium conrod is stronger than an H beam 4340 steel forged conrod, think I better go back to college and speak to my Mechanical engineering professor and tell him all the stuff he taught me on materials composition and beam loads was a load of shite then eh???

aye sure asp tested them

phils scooby wrote:

Jonny Gav wrote:

phils scooby wrote:

standard later rods are stronger then eagles, bt dnt take my word for it i know fuk all

So you are saying a standard I beam cast aluminium conrod is stronger than an H beam 4340 steel forged conrod, think I better go back to college and speak to my Mechanical engineering professor and tell him all the stuff he taught me on materials composition and beam loads was a load of shite then eh???

aye sure asp tested them

Ahh, I see, it must be true then, How did they manage to bend the laws of physics to get those results then?

From Jonnys recommendation i got the 2.5 standard rods for when i eventually get my build underway but would cap them at being 450bhp capable to stay on the safe side. They are alot stronger than EJ20 rods from the design which was pointed out to me but certainly wouldnt have said better than any H-beam forged steel rods and deffo not for near the 2bar mark you'll be after no doubt with a 'V' lol.

good luck with the build hardy

will drop me engine stand off for you tomora

and av spleenys tool set here if u want too borrow it

no need to drop stand off mate just come help me lift it in the car then follow me back to yours and i'll use your tools

hard on 1.72" wrote:

no need to drop stand off mate just come help me lift it in the car then follow me back to yours and i'll use your tools

no no no, this is your built not bought engine.

tell me what tools ya need and a will lend you them ne bother

REMEMBER ITS ONLY NUTS AND BOLTS

FPMSL

I've got an adjustable spanner and a halfords socket set that's should do eh?

Ive allways had Wossner Pistons fitted to mine and Carrillo H-Beam Rods, I know Caryns engine now has the same.

I would also consider putting 14mm head studs in from the start and o ringing the heads. To get a super seal of the gasket when running 2bar of boost.


My car is used as a daily driver and is currently doing a 1000 mile a month.


I think you should have no problem building an engine with an adjustable sapnner

hard on 1.72" wrote:

I've got an adjustable spanner and a halfords socket set that's should do eh?

haha thats the same as my tool kit

phils scooby wrote:

standard later rods are stronger then eagles, bt dnt take my word for it i know fuk all

ROFL u been sniffin ya socks again fella